This Old Marketing

Has the content creator/influencer business model gone bearish? Glamour seems to think so. We  disagree. The Paramount/Skydance deal is finally done...we think. Spotify is beginning to court more video podcasts. Is it working in their fight against YouTube? And BusinessWeek has a 120-page print issue on the way. Does this mean a new opportunity in print? Wins and losses include ArtBotAI and Mohawk Chevy. Rants and raves include Trump speaking at the Bitcoin Conference and AI spammers. ----- This week's links: Power Slap and Dana White Paramount Skydance Deal Spotify's Continuing Shift to Video Influencers Aren't Getting Famous Like They Used To BusinessWeek's Print Move Mohawk Chevy on TikTok ArtBotAI Trump to Speak at Bitcoin Conference The Rise of AI Content ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special condensed episode of This Old Marketing. We cover the latest supreme court decision on social media. Good decision or more of the same? And do the brand new rules of marketing and advertising include content marketing? If content marketing becomes marketing, what happens to the discipline? Rants and raves include mxmtoon and research from Meta and Kantar. ----- This week's links: Supreme Court Sends Social Media Back to States Brand New Rules of Advertising mxmtoon Research from Meta and Kantar One Million Checkboxes ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In breaking news, the Supreme Court is allowing the White House to press social media companies to remove disinformation. Did this really need to go to court in the first place? Time strikes a deal with OpenAI, while the recording industry files suit against Suno AI and Uncharted Labs citing copyright infringement. And...have we learned anything from moving text to video online? Hits and misses include the Verizon logo and the Toys R Us commercial produced with OpenAI. Rants and raves include the Olympics and AI forgetting to read the room. ----- This week's links: Supreme Court Ruling on Social Media Time Strikes Deal with OpenAI Recording Industry Sues Sona We Learned the Wrong Lessons from Video Verizon's New Logo Toys R Us's AI Ad Al Michaels' AI Voice at the Olympics AI Execs Forget to Read the Room ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

While Wells Fargo is into employee surveillance, the US Surgeon General pushes for a warning on social media much like those on cigarette packages. Forbes threatens Perplexity with legal action, while TikTok debuts humanlike AI-generated avatars for advertising. Hits and misses include Oscar Mayer and American Express. Rants and raves include indie print and the Cannes Lions award winners. ----- This week's links: Wells Fargo Fires Employees Surgeon General and Social Media Forbes Threatens Perplexity TikTok Debuts AI Ad Features Oscar Mayer Bacon Ad Cannes Lions 2024 High-End Indie Print Publications ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Apple's big developer conference meeting saw the launch of IOS 18 and Apple Intelligence? Apple decided to partner with OpenAI and not Google for their AI integration. Is this a big miss for Google Gemini?  Plus, Adobe and Meta have big terms and conditions issues this week. Hits and misses include OpenAI, Google and Nathan's hot dogs. Rants and raves include "Infectious Generosity" by Chris Anderson and yet another AI content marketing launch. ----- This week's links: Adobe's Missed Terms Adobe's Apology META's content problems with Europe Apple Intelligence Is Launched Joey Chestnut and Nathan's Hot Dogs AI Content Marketing Agent ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Twitter/X leans into NSFW content and vertical video. Is this the sign of a turnaround or more desperate measures to stay alive? Robert and Joe take opposite sides and fight, fight, fight. Spotify's CEO makes comments about the cost of content being almost nothing. Should we care or should we boycott? Hits include Four Seasons and 10 Cent Beer night. Rants and raves include signals from Marcus Sheridan and Suits. ----- This week's links: Twitter's New NSFW Strategy Twitter/X Will Do Vertical Video Spotify CEO Is Out of Touch Facebook Going After Gen Z 10 Cent Beer Night - Craig Irons Four Seasons PR Win ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Big news this week as leaked Google search API documents are released into the world. The TLDR? Google has been lying about how it formulates search results. What do we know? Google manipulates content like an editor of a media company would. But does it even matter? AI scams are hitting a tipping point as we get closer to the US elections. OpenAI inks two more content deals and Elon raises money for xAI. Hits and misses include a home appliance store and Cheez-Its.  Rants and raves include marketing agencies and GaryVee's commencement speech. ----- This week's links: The Google API Document Leak Celebs Getting AI Scammed Atlantic/Vox Ink Deal with OpenAI Elon Raises $6 Billion for xAI HBR Recognizes Creator Economy Home Appliance Sales and Service Marketing Agencies as Consultants GaryVee's Commencement Address ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

While the world gets distracted by Scarlett Johansson's possible case against OpenAI, the AI giant continues to do deals with media companies.  This time, Open AI signed a deal with News Corp (owners of WSJ) for $250 million over five years (reported). Who's next? Trump Media's quarterly reported was more than a disaster, and yet the stock keeps going up. And we have a nice disagreement about whether Chick-fil-A should embrace or fire their internal social media influencers.  Hits and misses include GaryVee's new book and Coca-Cola lens. Rants and raves include content marketing platforms and a nice rave for the Cleveland Guardians baseball team. ----- This week's links: OpenAI vs. Black Widow OpenAI Signs Deal Trump Media Report Social Influencers and what to do Coca-Cola Lens GaryVee's Book Trailer ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special live recording of Joe and Robert with Philip Hernandez from the Haunted Attraction Network, recorded at Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) in Cleveland, Ohio on May 5th. Philip goes into detail about how he thinks about and creates content for the network, including the challenges and opportunities in social media content creation. Please follow Philip on Instagram and check out the Haunted Attraction Network. Special thanks to Hubspot for sponsoring the opening reception at CEX, and to our friends at VividFront for producing this recording.  ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

It was another crazy week in AI news. On the heals of Google's AI announcement, OpenAI launches ChatGPT4 Omni (o). What does the new iteration mean for creators and marketers? If that wasn't enough, TikTok is upgrading its algorithm with AI. Thank you (not so much). And is the beef between Kendrick and Drake real? We think it's marketing. Hits and misses include John Mulaney's new show and Prof G's podcast strategy. Rants and raves include OEF's 100 Holes of Golf model and more on MarTech cuts. This week's links: OpenAI Releases Omni TikTok Is Testing AI in Algo The Drake/Kendrick Beef John Mulaney's New Show Prof G Markets Podcast OEF's 100 Holes of Golf MarTech Spending Falls This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

In the latest social media soap opera, TikTok has sued the US Government over its potential "ban," bringing out the unconstitutional card. Is this just a stalling tactic? Yes...and it's working. More money is flowing into the creator economy after big product successes from MrBeast and Logan Paul. But will the new algo changes be the end of big content creators? And Hollywood continues to lack standards with AI. Is it simply too late? Hits and misses include CEX and Joe Biden. Rants and raves include Instagram and Meta. This week's links: TikTok Sues the US Government MrBeast and Logal Paul Lead Creator Movement Hollywood and AI 2024 Marketing Technology Landscape Meta to Provide Advertisers with Auto Images Instagram on Algo Change   This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Joe and Robert do a deep dive into their CEX presentations...Joe's on the new business model for content creators and Robert's on the marketing MBA. In the news, Instagram launches a new program that will highlight new content creators. They make it sound amazing. The problem is that this will hurt full-time content creators and content marketers. Hits this week include Adidas and Phish (at the Sphere). Rants and raves include the trouble with books and third-party cookies. This week's links: Instagram and Twitch Roll Out New Algos Amazon's Killer Quarterly Numbers Adidas to Overinvest in Marketing Phish at the Sphere No One Buys Books Yes, People Still Buy Books Google's Cookie Delay This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.